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| * Don't be a jerk | | * Don't be a jerk |
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| --[[User:Trygvis|Trygvis]] ([[User talk:Trygvis|talk]]) 03:47, 23 August 2018 (EDT) | | --[[User:Trygvis|Trygvis]] ([[User talk:Trygvis|talk]]) 03:47, 23 August 2018 (EDT) |
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− | :There is currently no real implications to using either. It's just an early attempt to map our major properties to WikiData for programming purposes. I think the main reason we've gone with 'designer' is that it sounds more descriptive to what we're trying to define since we have a stronger distinction between 'designer' (the IP designer) and 'manufacturer' (the actual fab). To that end, developer sounds slightly ambiguous. But you can change the wikidata property if you think the later one is better. --[[User:At32Hz|At32Hz]] ([[User talk:At32Hz|talk]]) 10:34, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
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− | ::Ok, I did the change. Thanks for the information. --[[User:Trygvis|Trygvis]] ([[User talk:Trygvis|talk]]) 08:34, 24 August 2018 (EDT)
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| I was looking at the [https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/10_nm_lithography_process#10_nm_Microprocessors list of 10 nm Microprocessors] and noticed that the table is created manually but is really a good match for an ask query. | | I was looking at the [https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/10_nm_lithography_process#10_nm_Microprocessors list of 10 nm Microprocessors] and noticed that the table is created manually but is really a good match for an ask query. |
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| --[[User:Trygvis|Trygvis]] ([[User talk:Trygvis|talk]]) 05:53, 23 August 2018 (EDT) | | --[[User:Trygvis|Trygvis]] ([[User talk:Trygvis|talk]]) 05:53, 23 August 2018 (EDT) |
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− | :You can actually just do {{#ask: [[Category:microprocessor families]] [[process::10 nm]]|format=ul|limit=0|link=all|headers=show|searchlabel=something like this|columns=3}}. I just realized we are also missing a 'name' property on the ic family template (the whole template needs to be switched to our new style too). An additional 'main designer' property really makes not only here but for all other templates in order to pick the one name the subject is associated with most closely. We might just want to always make it equal the same value as the first defined 'designer' to simplify this (and pretend the main designer is always 1 value). --[[User:At32Hz|At32Hz]] ([[User talk:At32Hz|talk]]) 11:02, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
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− | ::Yeah I was thinking of just picking the first designer too and use that as a main designer. Is "primary designer" a better term for it? I can try to adjust the template if that is ok. I'm new here so I'm just trying to figure out how much stuff I can do without stepping on someones toes.
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− | ::I'm happy to improve the 10 nm page and friends by replacing the manually made lists with ask queries if that is ok.
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− | :::So I've changed [[Template:ic family]] to set <code><nowiki>{{developer}}</nowiki></code> as <code>main developer</code> ([https://en.wikichip.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3Aic_family&type=revision&diff=82710&oldid=81779 diff]) and changed the 10nm page. Compare the queries {{#ask: [[Category:microprocessor families]] [[process::10 nm]]|format=ul|limit=0|link=all|headers=show|searchlabel=without main developer|columns=3}} to {{#ask: [[Category:microprocessor families]] [[process::10 nm]]||?main designer|format=ul|limit=0|link=all|headers=show|searchlabel=with main developer|columns=3}}
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− | :::However, the list would be prettier if the pages DISPLAYTITLE was not set. I'm not sure if it is possible to change how the list is rendered without having a special template for it. Ideally I think it would be nice to use the <code>tree</code> format, but I couldn't figure out how to nest the pages. I tried to set <code>parent=main designer</code> but that didn't work.
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